Showing posts with label vegeta. Show all posts
Showing posts with label vegeta. Show all posts

Sunday, 6 October 2019

Did the Ginyu Force attack Planet Yardrat? - DB Mistranslations

With Dragon Ball Super Chapter 52 and Vegeta's arrival on Planet Yardrat we get some clarification from some things already mentioned back in Dragon Ball Z. However, some localisations missed out a certain fact...

In DB Mistranslations I go through some dialogues which where not correct localized or are interesting enough to take a deeper look into. Last time it was about some dialogues from the Buu Saga, now it's about Freeza and the current arc of the DBS manga.

Back in Age 762 in the middle of the hunt for the Dragon Balls, the Ginyu Force arrives helping to get the magic balls back to Freeza. The emperor of Universe 7 ordered his special force to Namek after the loss of Zarbon and Dodoria as well as the lack of scouters. As seen in an anime filler, the Ginyu Force launches from Planet Freeza 79 straight to Namek to help out.



However, it seems that this wasn't supposed to be the case. The last DBS manga chapter has the following lines where Vegeta talks with a Yardratian:

ヤードラット星人悟空くんが来る前までこの星はギニュー特戦隊にひどい目にあっていたんだ」
ベジータ「そういや。ギニューたちはここを攻めていたんだったか」

The official English translations goes it follows:

Yardratian: "The Ginyu Squad caused quite a stir on our planet before Goku defeated them."
Vegeta: "Ah, I do remember hearing that the Ginyu Squad attacked this place."

However, this fact never seemed to be pointed out in other localizations, so let's check out DBZ anime episode 123, where Vegeta actually confirms that the Ginyu Force attacked Yardrat:

ギニューたちはヤードラット星を攻めていた。そこへ着くようインプットされていたんだ。

Literally: "The Ginyu Force were attacking Planet Yardrat.
So it was programmed to go there."

For me, grown up with the German Dub, it was this line:
"Wie es aussieht war die Zerstörung Yardrats das eigentliche Ziel das Kommandos. Die Kapsel ist per Autopilot dorthin geflogen."

The first sentence in the German Dub leaves it quite open whether the Ginyu Force went to Yardrat or not as it translates to:
"As it seems was the destruction of Yardrat the actual objective of the squad."

My understanding back then was (also keeping the anime filler in mind) that the Ginyu Force was supposed to go to attack Yardrat after the mission of Namek was finished. However, since the clarification in the last DBS chapter it became clear that the Ginyu Force actually attacked Planet Yardrat, but apparently stopped their mission before as they were called to Namek to be ultimately defeated by Goku and Vegeta which the Yardratians still really appreciate.

So as the mission on Yardrat was supposed to continue after the mission on Namek was finished the space pod flew by autopilot the Yardrat.

And Vegeta probably heard about the Yardrat mission while he was on Planet Frieza assuming that the Ginyu Force was already on Yardrat then. Still, the anime filler doesn't help here and is the main cause for the confusion.

Anyway, I hope I could clarify about topic, something I also just learned.

If you have more examples for your local dub about this line, please comment below!

Saturday, 22 July 2017

Super is reaching 100 episodes tomorrow!

It´s definitely a milestone reaching the mark of 100 episodes. At the beginning it wasn´t even clear if it would last that long and now cannot even tell when it ends... 

After two movie retellings, the Universe 6 arc, the Copy Vegeta filler, the Future Trunks arc and some interesting filler episodes we are currently in the Universe Survival arc and the tournament just started with episode 97. It´s completely unknown in which direction this arc is going since the fate of all the universes is at stake. One of them had already been erased.

But this arc has something for everyone: It gives Tien, Roshi and Kuririn some time to shine, the android #17 and #18 participate, we got more Saiyans from Universe 6 (even Super Saiyans), all the angels, Gods of Destruction and Supreme Kai from the other universes, many new characters and... not to forget: Frieza. 


He could also be an interesting factor about the time past the arc: Will he eventually win or getting revived? Having some collaboration with Frost in Universe 6 to create a new empire? Or go even further? Becoming a God of Destruction? 

The other universes are quite interesting on its own for several further subplots, just looking at the 6th and 11th universe. Could the next story finally send the Z fighters to other universes? Vegeta visiting Planet Sadal? And what about the Universe 6 Namekians?

So many open things which makes me believe that the story could easily go much further - even with staying in the current time-slot of Dragon Ball age.


The ending of the Future Trunks arc in both anime and manga doesn´t seem that this was the last we saw Vegetas son from another timeline. The fact that both him and Mai exist twice in there new-created timeline can lead to something in the future. Toriyama did not do that without having an idea behind... Although it´s Toriyama.. Quite likely he has no plan yet.

Anyway the return of Future Trunks with the enemy Goku Black brought many fans back and it truly helped the reputation of the new Dragon Ball anime TV series. 

Nozawa even wants to reach 700 episodes... sounds quite crazy looking at her age. But Dragon Ball Super is running well right now, was once even better than One Piece in terms of viewers, so let´s see what the future brings.

We are already way past GT with 64 episodes, the next benchmark would be going past the 153 episodes of the first original DB series which I see quite likely to happen...

Monday, 5 June 2017

Dragon Ball GT: Super Saiyan 4 Broly - 1: The Arrival

Around 10 years ago I wrote a fanfiction story which takes place after the martial arts tournament which followed by the defeat of Baby. It can be seen as an alternate story for the Super 17 saga or as something which could have been a movie during this point in time...

1: The Arrival

After a long unforgiving fight Goku managed it to finally defeat Baby, the last surviving Tuffle by pushing him with a 10-times Kamehameha into the sun which killed him. Shortly after that the population of the Earth were evacuated since the explosion of the planet could not be prevented as a side effect of the Black Star Dragon Balls. Thanks to Porunga the Earth could be recreated again and a new martial arts tournament was held shortly after that which was won by Mr. Satan

A few weeks has passed since the tournament and our friends got used to the well-earned time of peace again. Meanwhile Pan is having a sparring match with her grandfather Goku. 'You have really improved, Pan! But there is still a huge gap between us!' 'I know', replied Pan, 'you have way more experience than me, so that is no problem!" Gohan is getting out of the house saying to Pan and Goku: 'Enough for now, the food is ready!" Goku and Pan are joining the meal.

Meanwhile Vegeta left Capsule Corp. in West City to go to Goku in order to ask him for a fight, since they could not fight at the last tournament. While being on the way Vegeta is sensing three energies. 'This ki... Is that really...?' 

'That is a really high powerlevel... and there´s one a bit weaker and one really weak. But they are somehow quite familiar, that´s not good...', said Goku after standing up while he was eating. 'Who is that?' The others are shocked trying to sense what Goku means. 'And? Can you feel it now? I know these energies, but that´s actually impossible!'

Gohan: 'And what are you going to do now?' Goku: 'These energies are about to land near Karins tower. I need to look that nothing happens to Karin and Yajirobe. And also Upa and Bora in the forest down there. So I need to go!' Gohan follows Goku. 'Father, I help you!' 'Ok, but I think if I turn into a Super Saiyan 4 straightaway this opponent won´t be an issue!' Gohan agrees: 'Right, father. They will be quite surprised!' Goku: 'I can sense that Vegeta is going to arrive before us!'

The two space pods are landing, one of them hits Karins tower which fells to the ground. Upa and Bora can avoid the falling top of the tower. Upa: 'What was that?' Bora: 'Aliens?' Meanwhile Yajirobe and Karin are falling towards to ground. Yajirobe gets an idea: 'Ah, I know, this can save us!' He uses his capsule with a skycar, where both he and Karin jump in. They wonder what happened.

Behind a lot of smoke two big craters are getting more and more visible. In each crater is one space pod which open simultaneously. Bora and Upa are quite surprised seeing two persons climbing out of the pods. Vegeta arrives as first: 'I wasn´t wrong! Paragus and Broly! Impossible!' The two Saiyans notice Vegeta and fly up to him. Paragus greets the Saiyan prince: 'Hi Vegeta, and how is the life on Earth going?' 'Funny, shut up, better tell me how you both could make it getting here. I thought you both died a long time ago!'


Paragus confirms: 'Yes we did, but let´s get to the details later..' Vegeta: 'Ok, I understand. After a few punches you will tell me!' Paragus expains: 'We have a clear target for our visit here. We want to make Earth the new planet Vegeta, with me as a king!' Vegeta laughs: 'Keep dreaming, I´m way stronger than last time, you won´t have any chance against me.' Paragus: 'Vegeta, trust me, in a few hours nothing will be as it was before.' Broly screams: 'KAKAROTT!' and flies in Gokus direction. Vegeta´s getting livid: 'Damn, always Kakarott. This time I will be the one who defeats Broly!' 

How will the clash of Vegeta, Broly, Gohan and Goku end? Why are Broly and Paragus alive? Can Paragus realise his plans? And how is the third yet unknown energy?

Monday, 1 May 2017

Why the the build-up to the Universe Survival arc is just great

Warm-up matches against Universe 9, the birth of Bulla and recruiting other members for the teams of the Universe Survival Tournament. 12 great episodes already and the tournament hasn't even started!

Personally, I love these episodes. First, Goku initiated the whole thing by going to Zeno requesting about the tournament. Bringing Buu and Gohan back for fighting in testing matches against Universe 9 was really great to see again, since both did not participate in the Universe 6 tournament.

Vegeta staying out of these matches for the birth of his daughter was just another great plot of character development. Vegeta is surely a character who changed since his sacrifice against Buu which he now especially see in Super.

The introduction of the other Gods of Destructions, their angels and the Kaioshins was also quite interesting. Let's see what their role in this arc is going to be. They seems to build an opposition against Universe 7 since it's Goku's fault we get this tournament.

But especially the recruiting of the other members of the Universe 7 team is great stuff: Piccolo and Gohan training together unleashing Ultimate Gohan again, Fat Buu trains to be slim, Goku against Kuririn and Android 18, the return of Android 17. So many interesting plot points and throwbacks.

And it's not just about the teams of Universe 7. Universe 11 has the Pride Troopers, which one of them looks like Beerus and they all seem really strong. And also: The "Female Broly" finally appeared! Cauliflowa is her name. And we saw Cabba trying to recruite her brother for the tournament, but he suggested to take his sister instead.

You see, there are a lot of things going on and looking at the next weeks preview we see Tenshinhan and Muten Roshi back in action! Already hyped to see that!

Sunday, 26 March 2017

Only 28 planets with mortals in Universe 7? - What?

It was a quite surprising revelation by the Kaioshin in the recent Episode 83 of Dragon Ball Super. In Universe 7 are apparently only 28 planets with mortal beings. I think that's hardly even possible...

Let's take a look back at the Frieza saga where we had lots of different races 'employed' as soldiers of the emperor Frieza. At least 79 planets were under Friezas control. The minions of Freeza - also the Saiyans - were sent on missions for decades in order to extinct the inhabitants of other planets to sell the place later on.

Therefore, of course, many races died of course but it's not like the Frieza army ran out of work. I mean we are talking about the whole Universe 7 here. It sounds even way too less for a galaxy. Of course also Buu and Beerus were responsible for destroying entire planets and civilizations, but on the other hand the Kaioshin is responsible for the creation of new worlds - it seems like he failed in doing just that.


Or is it that the young Kaioshin doesn't know better? He was wrong and did not know things so many times. Like being unaware about the strength of the Saiyans, the by Babidi moved location of the 'egg' of Majin Buu, the Potara fusion or even recently the existence of Zen-Oh. 

He is still a young Kai but these examples makes me believe that he is also wrong this time. He even went checking for other strong fighters for the tournament. 

The whole situation sounds fishy and I hope we get more clarification for this topic. Maybe he overlooked something.

Also, if we would include 'Dragon Ball GT' - if that's even possible, but that's another topic - we get to know way more planets like Imegga, M2 and so on. You can say about the third Dragon Ball series what you want, but it gives a great view about the universe. Something which started at the Saiyan arc back in DBZ where we got the first information about what's out there in outer space.

If Super's interpretation is that Universe 7 only has 28 planets with mortals sounds for like: "Don't make it too big, we have 11 other universes." Anyway, these are my first thoughts after that revelation, also check out the video. Hopefully we will know more very soon.

Saturday, 26 December 2015

Old DBZ facts no longer true because of Super!

There were facts from DBZ which were meant to last forever, but since Dragon Ball Super is now running for more than half a year there are now a few things you can't say anymore...

New Fact #1: Piccolo was killed by Freeza

Well, on Namek Piccolo got hit by a beam right before Kuririn died for the second time. But he survived and got transported to Earth by Porunga.
But now in Super - which is different to the Fukkatsu no F movie - Piccolo got hit by Freeza in order to save Gohan. He died but is expected to be brought back to live with Namekian Dragon Balls.
Super Episode: 22

New Fact #2: Vegeta killed the whole Ginyu Force
As we know from DBZ, Vegeta first killed Guldo, then Recoome and Burter, which were first defeated by Goku. After a Senzu bean and a thereby gotten power-up the Saiyan prince managed to kill Jeice on its own. Ginyu, the only one left accidently changed his body with a frog.
After many years on Earth as a frog, Ginyu managed it to change with Tagomas body - only to be killed by Vegeta.
Super Episode: 23

To be updated...


Monday, 10 February 2014

Toriyama revealed name of Gokus mother

It has been unexpected news being spread around the internet last week. But it's true that Akira Toriyama officially announced information about the mother of the Dragon Ball protagonist Goku.

Toriyamas current manga 'Jaco the Galactic Patrolman' which also acts in the world of Dragon Ball is about to end but it gets a bonus chapter including an appearance of Gokus mother. Her name: Gine.


In the Q&A Toriyama told that Gine had a gentle personality, but had still been a warrior. She was saved by Bardock a few times. Because of that a romance started and they got two children.

She later worked at the meat distribution center on Planet Vegeta. Currently it's unknown if she had survived the destruction of her home planet or not. We will know more after the release of the final chapter in April.

Source: Kanzenshuu

Sunday, 8 December 2013

Dragon Ball GT Inconsistencies Part 2: Halos

After giving you some information about the forgotten gravity on planet Plant in Dragon Ball GT I will continue the series with another important mistake or change: The missing halos in hell!

The first time when we saw a character with a halo in Dragon Ball we have to look back to Gokus childhood where he met his dead Grandpa Gohan at Babas place. People who die in the universe of Dragon Ball are in special cases allowed to get a recreation of their bodies in the afterlife.


The only difference is that dead people with their real body have halos placed above their heads. A few years later Goku made the same experience after a sacrifice to beat his brother Raditz. In some anime fillers later we also see dead evil people like the Ginyu Force having halos.

But also Dragon Ball Z have inconsistencies concerning dead villains in Hell. People coming to hell aren't supposed to have a body. During the fight against Majin Buu Vegeta asked Piccolo what will happen to him when he would die in order to kill the demon. The Namekian replies that he will lost his body because he has killed too many innocent people lately. But why could Frieza or Cell keep their real body?

Let's get to that later. But despite we saw so many villains in hell got halos, why did they lost them in the Super 17 Saga in Dragon Ball GT? It's not to compare with the movie Fusion Reborn, in which the dead people become alive again. Why even people appeared which haven't died on Earth is still another question.

During Dragon Ball GT everyone from Hell could easily 'jump' to Earth through a hole made by two Android #17 and nobody of them had a halo before. Interestingly, after being killed again waiting in the queue at Enma-Daios place enemies like Puipui still have halos above theirs heads. They lost them probably again on their way to hell.

Piccolo was seen losing his halo after destroying parts of the paradise which means he was about to go to Hell - even if it looked similar with the situation where he was revived at North Kais planet in the Frieza Saga before getting transported to Namek.

But people in Hell still remain to be indestructible. Even cutting Frieza in half didn't help to defeat him, because his body reshaped - same as in Dragon Ball Z with characters having halos in similar situations.

To distinguish people in Hell without halos between dead or alive the body temperature makes the difference: The temperature of dead people is much colder than from alive ones. That's why the ice machine worked with Frieza and Cell, but not with Goku.

Anyway, we can say that the makers of Dragon Ball GT obviously intended the change to remove the halos from the people living in Hell. It's a shame it wasn't explained why.

Maybe they didn't want villains to have halos because of the Super 17 plot? A change made by Enma-Daio? Nothing makes really sense when such a big thing isn't explained at all. Dragon Ball GT has its own rules and this thing is absolutely a case in point.